Cecilia Lister and the Absence of Clothing

My friend Cecilia stops by to chat about painting, gender and the “absence of clothing.” You also get to hear more than you’d probably like about my time in a Finnish bath house and what I think of using “Lazy” as a critique. There’s also a balladic ode to my home state and a review of a Bruce Chatwin book! (Follow @cecilia.lister on instagram for some amazing visual art!)